Monday, December 19, 2011

Civil War Manipulation

At the pro-Empire site Civil War Memory, Kevin Levin and his Lincoln-Lovin' Legion have tired of "raging" at noted author and vexillologist Ed Sebesta, and have returned to their regularly scheduled program of mocking the South.

In a typical post, Levin makes some catty remark about the South, and the Legionnaires hoot, snicker, and pile on with their own snitty comments. Anyone who doesn't embrace the approved history of the Empire's wars of liberation is met with jeers, and the Lincoln Lovers congratulate each other for their superior intelligence and orthodoxy.

Sound like fun? Well, in a post entitled Deep Thoughts With the Kennedy Brothers, Levin offers this quote from Lincoln's Marxists by Al Benson, Jr., and Walter Donald Kennedy (though Levin sloppily attributes it to Kennedy and his brother James Ronald, whom he dismisses as the "dynamic duo"):

“Adolf Hitler admired Lincoln’s attack upon state’s rights and emulated Lincoln by destroying the last vestiges of “statal rights” in the German Federal Republic. Lincoln, Marx, Engles, and Hitler–what a band of brothers!”

Regular commenter Andy Hall added this:

In reference to the quote about Hitler’s supposed admiration for Lincoln, Donnie Kennedy cites the work’s author as “Kennedy” which is kind of a douchey thing to do to the work’s first author, Al Benson, Jr.

I don’t know what Benson and Walter Kennedy cite as evidence of Hitler’s deliberate emulation of Lincoln, but Hitler himself explicitly expected to develop kinship with the states of the old Confederacy on attitudes of race. From Mein Kampf, pp 401-02, in the footnotes:

"In practice the word ['Aryan'] is officially used today as a racial term excluding Jews and negroes [sic.]. The second are frowned upon because (i.a.) they are admitted into the French army; and because, it is hoped, sympathy for the Nazi cause may be thus awakened among Southerners in the United States."

I’m guessing that quote doesn’t appear in any of the Kennedys’ books.

To which I replied:

Hitler may have hoped for support from the South, but then he also hoped that Britain would join him against the Soviets. Does that impugn the people of Britain, or what they fought for?

As far as actual philosophy and policy, Lincoln's regime comes much closer to mirroring Hitler. Not only is there the genocide of American Indians, but opposition to States' Rights. From page 831 of Mein Kampf:

"The states that make up the American Union are mostly in the nature of territories, more or less, formed for technical administrative purposes, their boundaries having in many cases been fixed in the mapping office. Originally these states did not and could not possess sovereign rights of their own. Because it was the Union that created most of the so-called states."

Sounds rather Lincolnian, doesn't it?

Of course, there's only one way for a defender of the Empire to respond to such a heretical comment: Delete it. Which is exactly what Kevin Levin did.

So much for reasoned and impartial discourse in pursuit of the truth.

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17 Comments:

At December 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM , Anonymous PalmettoPatriot said...

This alien Mr Levin would seem to have little sense of honour. He purposefuly distorts history to forward his agenda. He is on a mission of de-faming the South and advancing the Godless, universal Empire he so adores.

 
At December 19, 2011 at 10:21 AM , Anonymous shadowviper said...

awe.. he couldn't hand out that educated arse whippin you handed him because you made him look stupid on his own site...I cannot quit laughing

 
At December 19, 2011 at 12:21 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

PalmettoPatriot,

Yeah, but the Godless, universal Empire is all he has. And serving it pays well.

 
At December 19, 2011 at 12:22 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

shadowviper,

They are laughable, aren't they?

Wonder if he'll make any corrections?

BTW, I love that 'net handle of yours.

 
At December 19, 2011 at 1:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to post comments at CWM and got tired of exactly the attitude you describe. That crowd is all about identifying with the victor rather than exploring the facts of history.

 
At December 19, 2011 at 1:56 PM , Blogger Brock Townsend said...

Useful idiots.

 
At December 19, 2011 at 2:04 PM , Blogger Jared said...

Of course your post was deleted...how dare you blaspheme against the Holy Lord Lincoln!

Silencing and censoring dissent: another Lincolnian tradition.

 
At December 19, 2011 at 2:20 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Hitler himself...
"In practice the word ["Aryan"] is officially used today as a racial term excluding Jews and negroes [sic.]. The second are frowned upon because (i.a.) they are admitted into the French army; and because, it is hoped, sympathy for the Nazi cause may be thus awakened among Southerners in the United States."

 
At December 19, 2011 at 2:26 PM , Blogger Snaggle-Tooth Jones said...

Levin and his groupies are legends in their own minds. The funny thing is, these days there's a note of desperation in their online babblings, which is likely due to the fact that our message (the paleoconservative message generally and the Southern paleocon message in particular) is appealing to an increasing number of people, and not just in the South. It is in fact the case that "the cause of the South is the cause of us all", and that reality is cropping up in such forms as kids in Northern high schools and young black men in Southern universities defending their display of the Confederate Battle Flag. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. There's a sea change in the general political attitude occuring in this country, and it's beginning to look very confederalist.

This disturbs the acolytes of Lincoln worship to no end, and we see an instance of this desperation in Levin's deletion of your comment.

Hey Kevin ('cause I know you're reading this): "We're here. We're clear. Get used to it."

 
At December 19, 2011 at 3:27 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Anonymous@1:19,

I think that's an accurate diagnosis of this gang!

 
At December 19, 2011 at 3:27 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Brock Townsend,

Not of any use to us, though.

 
At December 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Jared,

Yes, and they imagine they're completely justified because they're right - which is the basis of all totalitarianism.

 
At December 19, 2011 at 3:29 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Anonymous@2:20,

And your point is? That's what Hall posted.

 
At December 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Snaggle-Tooth Jones,

Good point. I agree that it's desperation.

Compare that to the GOP Establishment's growing nervousness at Ron Paul's success. Paul is a direct threat to the ruling class, which knows its perks and privileges are based on eternal war and centralized power.

 
At December 20, 2011 at 2:19 AM , Blogger Northwestern Localist said...

"Hey Kevin ('cause I know you're reading this): "We're here. We're clear. Get used to it."

Now that there is funny, I don't care who you are.

 
At December 20, 2011 at 8:11 AM , Blogger Harold Thomas said...

In my dreams...

If the Yankees made war with the Republic of Ohio, I would send just one missile into Washington, D.C. -- to destroy the Lincoln Memorial...

 
At December 21, 2011 at 4:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunatly, Andy Hall and his little buddy Kevin succeeded in getting my comments banned from The Atlantic. There's also one goof who continues to rail about there being no black Confederate soldiers. Andy Hall called me a liar when I pointed out I knew where 26 of them were buried in a mass grave. What an insolent bunch of efitist snobs.

 

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