Friday, August 17, 2012

Of RINOS, Worms, and Assisted Suicide

A loyal reader writes,


This video [see below] got me to thinking about your idea of voting for Obama to make conservatives angrier. Maybe that's not such a great idea. What do you think?

The following passage from the video, which starts about 2:00 in, is what the reader is referring to:

"Some people say, 'Worse is better, worse is better.' They have this fantasy that if things get really bad, it'll turn into a Mad Max scenarios, or Turner Diaries, and there'll be fighting and revolution and we will win. But reality doesn't work out that way. Worse usually means worse."

I think the reader is questioning this post, entitled, "In praise of assisted suicide." To that loyal reader, and others who find voting for Obama repulsive, I have to respond that, given the choice between two big-government candidates, the candidate who does the better job of silencing dissent is the greater threat to liberty.

Policy-wise, Paul Ryan is JUST as bad as Obama, and is the more accomplished liar. That's why I see the Republican ticket as the greater threat to our liberty, or what's left of it. Chuck Baldwin is one of the few who's peeked behind the Republican ticket's conservative-sounding slogans. Here's what voting Republican would endorse:

Jane Aitken wrote an excellent synopsis of Paul Ryan’s voting record that appeared on She noted that Ryan voted for federalizing rules for driver licenses; voted to make the Patriot Act permanent; voted to allow electronic surveillance without a warrant; voted to authorize military force in Iraq; voted to spend an “emergency” $78 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; voted to declare Iraq part of the “War on Terror” with no exit date; and voted against redeploying US troops out of Iraq.

Aitken also wrote, “Congressman Ryan supports the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, federal bailouts, increased federal involvement in education, unconstitutional and undeclared wars, Medicare Part D (a multi-trillion dollar unfunded liability), stimulus spending, and foreign aid.”
Or, as George Wallace famously said, "There's not a dime's worth of difference between the Republicans and Democrats."

Ever hear of the Stuxnet computer worm? It was developed by the Israelis and CIA to destroy Iranian nuclear research. You know how it worked? Once it got into the Siemens control equipment the Iranians were using, it sent false signals to the engineers. While the monitors showed everything running smoothly, the centrifuges were spinning out of control, eventually breaking down.

And that's exactly the threat of a big-government autocrat who speaks the calming words of conservatism, who spins dreams of restoring the small-government principles the Founders envisioned, when in fact, he's importing illegal aliens, authorizing more citizen surveillance, and ushering in socialism.

Better that people see what's being done to them. I'll end with this quote from Chuck Baldwin:

Sadder still is the fact that after Romney is elected in November, the vast majority of “conservatives” will do what they always do when a Republican is elected President: go into deep, extended hibernation—lasting exactly four years and awaking just in time to go through the façade all over again. What was it that Forrest Gump and P.T. Barnum said?

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At August 17, 2012 at 12:45 PM , Blogger Jared said...

I like RAMZPAUL, but I definitely disagree with him on the part of the video where he pretty much endorses the Romney/Ryan ticket.

Good post, Old Reb.

At August 17, 2012 at 12:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I understand the reasoning behind a paleo-conservative voting for Obama that you've articulated here before, OR, and I can't say I'm entirely unsympathetic. I won't vote for Romney, but I just can't bring myself to pull the lever for such a one as Obama, for whatever reason. I'll instead do what many who come here will do, i.e., write in Dr. Paul, for what it's worth.

David Smith

At August 17, 2012 at 1:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dutchy sez:

You voters out there - by voting Republicrat A or B, you get to choose between administering hemlock or strychnine to a beast that is already in its death throes. So cast your vote (if you even bother) for Ron Paul or Jeff Davis or even Mickey Mouse. Doesn't matter, so you might as well vote your conscience or have a chuckle. Because by 2016, the landscape (and I don't mean just the political landscape) will be profoundly "altered". None among us can see that future, but few thinkers will deny that a big [bad] change for the US is in the wind.

As for "worse is worse", I was instantly reminded of the old man tending the near empty oil pool in the hulk of Exon Valdez in the movie "Waterworld". Kevin Costner dropped a flare from the deck and as the old timer watched it descend to incinerate him, he exclaimed, "Oh, thank God."

However / whenever the Yankee Empire self-destructs, we will still have that satisfaction!

At August 17, 2012 at 1:52 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...


I like RP's vids, too, and usually agree with him. His stealth puns are classics (such as in the linked vid today!).

At August 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

David Smith,

I feel your pain.

Yes, it will hurt to pull that lever for Obama-Biden. Just think of it as the pain you feel when you pull a splinter out--it hurts now, but will make things better in the long run.

At August 17, 2012 at 1:55 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...


Anyone who could watch "Waterworld" all the way to the end can endure voting for Obama.

At August 17, 2012 at 4:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alas, the point in the video is absolutely correct.

There will never be a "collapse." Things will just decay, decay, decay, as they have been doing for decades.

Has there been a "collapse" of South Africa? No, and there never will be. It will just decay and decay, until it reverts to mud huts.

And what's this? "The candidate that will silence dissent is worse?" Dissent? WHAT dissent? The paleo, alt-right, neo-confed movement is so small, it cannot count as dissent.

The video is correct. The only way to effect change is thought grassroots efforts at reform. Incrementalism. It's that, or just waiting for a "revolution" fantasy that will never happen.

At August 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM , Blogger Jared said...

How does believing in an "incremental" revival and restoration of Amurka have any more credibility than believing there's a collapse coming?

Didn't the Soviet Union's empire collapse? Why yes, it did. So the US empire is quite capable of collapse as well.

Collapse certainly is far more feasible than some kind of miraculous "taking back" of the US government and restoring the old republic to the vision of the founders.

At August 18, 2012 at 9:49 AM , Blogger Old Rebel said...


No arguement here. We've always advocated grass-roots, local activism as the only way forward. I also believe the election of Mitt 'n Paul will dampen those efforts, since folks will think everything's ok.

At August 18, 2012 at 9:50 AM , Blogger Old Rebel said...


That's why we have no faith in national elections. They're a total waste of time.

Better to elect candidates who will strengthen local sovereignty.

At August 18, 2012 at 3:08 PM , Blogger Northwestern Localist said...

Old Rebel said...

That's why we have no faith in national elections. They're a total waste of time.

Better to elect candidates who will strengthen local sovereignty.

August 18, 2012 9:50 AM

After watching them over the years I can only agree. They are fixed and there seems to be no reason to believe that can be overcome.

Our only hope is enough people become aware just how manipulated they really are and "nullify" the edicts coming from dc, thereby crashing the empire.

At August 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM , Blogger Virginia Southron said...

I do not think you will crash the empire. It will morf into a total Facist regime using the military to reestablish it's power over the people. Just my thoughts.

Deo Vindice

At August 23, 2012 at 12:55 AM , Blogger Northwestern Localist said...

Virginia Southron said...
I do not think you will crash the empire. It will morf into a total Facist regime using the military to reestablish it's power over the people. Just my thoughts.

Deo Vindice

August 22, 2012 10:11 AM

I believe what you forecast will indeed happen, in fact some would say it already has started. And that will be it's demise, this is the history of totalitarianism. It always ends badly.


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