Tuesday, February 18, 2014

Secession movement in New York

The "one-size-fits-all" ideology of the past two centuries left nothing but death and misery in its wake. With the collapse of the Soviet Union in the last years of the 20th century, that era died. Like new shoots of life emerging after a forest fire, local autonomy movements are springing up everywhere - even in places you'd least expect them. Now New York is on the verge of splitting along cultural and political lines:

When Frank Sinatra sang “New York, New York,” he may have been on to something.

A movement is afoot to split New York into two regions — upstate and downstate — to acknowledge the gaping philosophical differences and improve representation.

“I’ve lived in New York all my life, and upstate and downstate have two different philosophies of life,” said John Bergener, an Albany County resident and organizer of the two New Yorks effort. “And it seems like they’re always in conflict.”

Campaigns for “secession” or a 51st state have been on the rise since the 2012 presidential election — see California, Colorado and Maryland ...
It should be a real hoot to see the so-called champions of "democracy" pitch fits about how this popular movement should be defeated, including the use of brute force. Time for the popcorn!


Al Benson Jr. said...

It's exactly the same situation in Illinois. Most of the state is relatively conservative and patriotic but downstate Illinois is constantly outvoted in elections because the city of Chicago, with its huge population can outvote the folks downstate and the city of Chicago is undeniably socialist in character. It doesn't help the situation that many dead folks in Chicago continue to vote and they vote "early and often" as the saying there goes.

Wannabe Southerner in Upstate NY said...

Very interesting!! Maybe we could send The City of Rochester along with NYC!

Anonymous said...


Is it really a matter of seceding from Chicago/NYC/Rochester, or is it more a matter of kicking them out of the rest of Illinois and NY?;)

David Smith

Anonymous said...

I knew several people in college from upstate NY and they had absolutely no hint of accent as do people from NY City. I actually mistook them as mid westerners or even southerners. Also no condescending attitude.

Wannabe Southerner in Upstate NY said...

David Smith:
Right you are Sir! I live in a suburb of Rochester & I was thinking of sending the whole city to NYC!
Of course that would be geographically impossible, but we can dream! The City of Rochester is a cesspool of Socialism. The newest mayor is clueless & typical Liberal.
Just the idea of 2 regions sounds appealing.But, not likely Rochester would go along with it.

Anonymous said...

Hey, WSNY!

Oh well . . . we can still dream, can't we?

David Smith

Anonymous said...

These comments are so stupid , omg !