Friday, January 27, 2017

Officials announce proposal that would establish California as separate nation

That's not my headline; it's from Fox News. Looks like the Bear Republic will be the first state to secede from the DC Empire. Serious backers are stepping up to champion the cause of an independent California, so it's not just people on the street expressing outrage at a distant, alien ruler anymore. From Fox:

A proposal in California has been submitted to the Secretary of State’s Office on Thursday campaigning for the state to secede from the United States.

The proposed “Calexit” initiative would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an inseparable part of the U.S.

A recent poll suggested that one in three California residents would support a possible secession from the U.S. due to their opposition to President Donald Trump. No mention has been made of the president in the proposal.

If the proposal qualifies for the ballot and is approved by voters, it could be a step to a future vote on whether the state would break away from the rest of the nation.
If Trump announced he needed volunteers to invade and hold California, do you think millennials will unplug their iPhones and enlist to keep California in the Union? Note to Dead-Enders: This isn't the late 19th century. The age of the Hegelian superstate is over. This is the age of devolution and the revival of historical nations. Ideology is dead as an organizing principle. Culture is replacing ideology at an accelerating pace.

Get used to it.


Weaver said...

I have trouble believing California would be allowed to secede for the same reason I doubted Trump could win. The system is rigged, and I've seen globalists win repeatedly throughout my lifetime.

However, Trump did win. And also, the UK did vote to secede from the EU.

So, maybe good things can happen. Perhaps this ruling elite of ours is weak.

Let's hope Trump doesn't try to attack California...

Weaver said...

The biggest victory though is just how changed "conservatives" are now. Dubya won a revolution in 2000, nuked the conservative movement. And now Trump has nuked the neocon movement.

The fickle masses convert to whatever their strong leader stands for... Like sheep.

Let's hope we can establish a rooted and wise tradition that can endure through changing circumstances. The mass's tendency to react is dangerous even if under Trump it is moving in the correct direction.

Personally, democracy scares me. Limiting the vote sounds very good to me.

I know of even best-of-class antiwar conservatives who voted for Kasich over Trump. (Kasich sold himself as calm and reasonable even while calling for war.) And I know conservatives who voted for McCain over Obama.

Democracy is just a game where voters whose primary focus is on work are tricked in the realm of politics.

Likewise, the market sells us poisonous culture, which we "freely" consume.

Our concept of freedom leads us to slavery. We need local professionals to manage things like culture and politics. If our rulers then act out of line, we should then rebel, demand change, as peoples have done throughout history.

All democracy does is it makes us blame ourselves when we're easily tricked, over and over, repeatedly time after time. Our concept of freedom leads to slavery. And we've spread that slavery across the word, imposed "freedom" which has resulted in a terrible globalism.

James Owen said...

Aside from other, obvious considerations, it might be instructive to observe the reactions of anti-Southern, Yankee supremacists to this.

D. V. Arminius said...

Although it is nowhere in the US Constitution forbidden or even mentioned, our esteemed Federal legal types dismiss secession as forbidden by "settled law". This I believe is based entirely on the outcome of the so-called Civil War and some Supreme Court rulings concerning Texas after the war.
Funny thing about the laws of man - they are quite malleable and subject to change as society evolves (or in the case of current US society over the last 50 years, devolves). When 1/3 of the people of a given state seek to change law at the BEGINNING of the "Trump Crisis", you can be sure change is in the wind.
California is the sixth largest economy in the world. D.C. would be loathe indeed to give up that tax base! But does it have the stomach to again maintain the union by force? If so, who will bear arms against pacifistic Californian secessionists? The sons of the South? New Yorkers? There's a nasty dilemma brewing for the Feds here. And I love it!

rex osborne said...

Just a few years ago, when we Southern Nationalists mentioned secession, and our lefty critics happened to be in a (rare) good mood, they "tolerantly" said we were eccentric cranks living in the past. If they were in their usual bad mood, they said we were a bunch of intolerant, hateful, hate-mongering, hate-filled haters.

It will likely be a much different story now that the Left State's silly white liberals, flakes and homo-enablers want to leave the holy union.

History certainly has some remarkable twists and turns, and we might be entering the gyrating corkscrew phase.

roho said...

California is going nowhere...........It is the 10th largest economy in the world and the number 1 agriculture area in the world.........................Duh?

Do you really think that the Alabama National Gaurd was federalized when George C. Wallace refused intergration, yet President Trump will simply say "Goodby California!".....Not hardly.

Do you think that all of those military bases in California, and the west pacific coast is going to be turned over to some foreign entity?.......................Please note: I said nothing antisemitic so you can post this comment?...................LOL!

MAP said...

Commiefornia contains the greatest concentration of delusional loons in the country. I'd be happy to see them gone. Those were the exact types our ancestors attempted to separate from, but were prevented. Commiefornia's leftist policies would prove a disaster very rapidly, and they would no longer have the rest of the country to bail them out, but, hey, we could watch from a distance and laugh at them.

Al Benson Jr. said...

If California went what a precedent that would set for the rest of the country. How, then, could they prevent Alabama, Mississippi and whoever else wanted to go? Years ago, when we lived in Illinois and I talked about secession, people laughed. They aren't laughing anymore.